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Shameless Self-Promotion

In order to bring attention to your work on Devtome, and to Devtome in general, you may find it advantageous to self-promote. A great way to do this is by bringing up the fact that you just so happen to have an article that relates to a conversation you are having with someone online. Exactly why you are having conversation with people online instead of working, playing with your kids, or smothering your wife with attention is unknown but there you are. Use it.

Example of Caprigonian Self-Promotion

Initially the thread started on a completely different topic, of which I had little to say at the time. It was about some war-propaganda piece I didn’t really want to delve into too deeply. I didn’t have a relevant article to promote anyway.

Lucky for me, a frustrated Venus Project (TVP) fan decided that it was somehow relevant to push the RBE agenda at that time. Well… It just so happens I am currently working on related material at the moment! All I had to do is wait for something pro or con about TVP so I could jump into the conversation:

Christine

Let's get rid of all this BS! Here's the solution to eliminate most of the misery in the world: freeworldcharter.org/ and http://thevenusproject.com/ The Venus Project - Beyond Poverty, Politics and War www.thevenusproject.com

Terry

Venus project is more of the same: centralized control. No way should anyone allow central control of all resources. That's just dumb.

Ubuntu

@ Terry that isn't necessarily true. Fresco is so old he still thinks a super-computer has to be a large machine housed in a centralized facility. It's cute really. Our technology is way beyond that. New economies can be open-source systems created, updated, and managed by rotating teams of volunteers.

Terry

It's not about where the computers that calculate who gets what and who is denied, but the system that doles out property after everyone has volunteered into it. At best, this puts a collective council in control of resources and opens it up for hacking. That's not even considering that some asshole could forcefully take over the resources the system has control of. It's centralized control of property with a decentralized management system. Anyone who is half awake to world events - or even their local events - can see centralizing is dumb.

Ubuntu

@ Terry you're still stuck on this idea that a society based on contributionalism has to be centrally controlled. It doesn't. Open-source has great potential. Fresco's vision is incomplete. He doesn't even know about creative commons licensing otherwise we would have access to more of his designs. Hopefully someone will work with him to get his stuff protected and released to the public domain before he dies on us.

Terry

Now you're grasping at straws. I said nothing of Constituionalism and if you knew anything about me, you'd know I'd never say anything like that. I'll reiterate that its not about the system - whether its open source or proprietary - but the lockup of resources at a single source. It doesn't matter if the system is managed by P2P, an oligarchy, or a monarchy, centralizing resources makes it ripe for abuse. Decentralization is the antithesis of control. That includes resources.

Ubuntu

I made a typo. I meant “contributionalism.” Error corrected. The point I'm trying to get across here is that the Venus Project has merit but needs to be updated Incorporate the concept of open source at its “core.”

Rabble

NOO! I thought i would never have to hear about the venus project ever again lol why don't people get it?? the only way we are going to make it is if we all start looking out for ourselves.. it's just like the drills on airplanes.. you have to put your mask on before you can start helping others.. we can't have a growing dependency and unfortunately, just because we have all this great technology, doesn't mean people are going to have to work and all crime is going to be eradicated… that's A UTOPIAN DREAM! they controllers and facilitators of all these fancy systems are supposed to be volunteered, but in reality, they can't be. let's face it, not everyone can manage a city, much less a nation or the earth as a whole… it takes a certain skill set to do the job, just like anything else. this whole idea is fantasy. the technology is there, but again, the people are going to have to take care of themselves.. self-responsibility.. once people stop relying on systems of control to manage everything, then MAYBE we have a chance to get closer to this dream world described in zeitgeist 2…… by the way, this series is the perfect example of defining the problem and providing the wrong solutions… it's almost like it's planned that way… research “problem, reaction, solution” and “order out of chaos”. one love y'all

Ubuntu

@ Rabble I totally agree with you on the first part. We have to be more self-reliant to break up the centralized power structure. I wrote an essay on devtome entitled “Fight the Power with Permaculture” for that reason. Since you bring up The Zeitgeist film series; Peter Joseph is kind of a douche. He's proved that during debates. Some of his beliefs are abhorrent too. However, he has brought a lot of good ideas to the table he learned about from others. One is the concept of “rotating inter-disciplinary teams.” A city can be managed by rotating disciplinary teams which can be voluntary. It would be like creating and updating open-source software. Of COURSE only programers get involved in that because they are the ones who are interested in doing so of COURSE those with the appropriate skill set will tend to gravitate toward managing open-source cities and of COURSE you wouldn't want the same group of people running things all the time which is why it must be understood that the teams must rotate out.

Ubuntu

BTW nobody in TVP or TZM claims their ideas can completely end all problems nor do they claim do be trying to create a perfect society (Utopia) but… you are absolutely right. We have to be FREE to realize a better world. Give me liberty or give me death!

Terry

There is a way to open source a better world - volunteer reputation systems. Know who you are dealing with. Don't associate, do business with, or support takers or fakers. Goes without saying sociopaths would not dare enter such a list. You don't even need to put your personal data in such a system if the public-key / hash model is followed.

What of falsified or erroneous data that makes you look bad or props you up? Arbitration services. With no institution of coercion to skew the market, competition of both services keeps them honest. No one would voluntarily contract with a business that routinely lies or make mistakes.

The problem with all centralization schemes is they try to manage people which opens the door to corruption. Decentralization is the key to minimizing this bullshit. Venus Project will never adopt decentralization because it is a centralized concept.

Christine

Why do all this hair-splitting? Ubuntu, TVP, TZM, Paradism, New Earth, etc in effect all have the same goal. A better world for each and everyone on this planet. Why not all work together and see what works and what doesn't? It all will automatically evolve. Fact is, we can't keep going the way we are going now, so let's just get started. We can also have the freedom to let everyone live as they want, either in a TVP city or an Ubuntu village. Some resources can't be obtained from the immediate surroundings and have to be imported from other parts of the world, so in the end we have to work together for the benefit of all.

Ubuntu

@ Terry I agree with much of what you are saying. Centralized control has a number of inherent problems not the least of which are corruption. However, If a bunch of people want to live in one place a holistic approach is warranted. This is where rotating inter-disciplinary teams using and open-source approach can centrally plan without central control, in a manner of speaking.

Ubuntu

@ Christine The hair-splitting is important.The “devil is in the details,” as they say. I agree with you up to a point, though. Just because Fresco is old and behind the times, doesn't mean we should reject all of what he offers, particularly his brilliant designs. Likewise, we can't dismiss Peter Joseph's contributions just because he is a arrogant godless pro-abortion dickhead. Then there's Michael Tellinger: absolutely brilliant but when people find out he believes he is in telepathic contact with the Sumerian creator god Enki… kinda turns them off sometimes, know what I mean? We will work it out, with the help of G_d and/or whatever gods may or may not exist!

Ubuntu

I'm working on the second part of my “Money for Trekkies” essay which broaches some of these topics. I plan on having it submitted to devtome this weekend. I can keep you posted. If you are a Star Trek fan, you may enjoy part 1. I think part 2 will be more intellectually stimulating but part 1 is fun, I think. Tell me what you think. Please.

Terry

I've no problem with people organizing any way they see fit, but TVP and particularly TZM advocate EVERYONE on the planet be centrally controlled by its system in order for its plan to work. They should just build for its community members and prove to the world their community works and branch out from there. If it works, people will flock to it. If it fails, its a damn good thing everyone wasn't on board.

Ubuntu

Terry, I appreciate that you grasp the importance of decentralizing control. I'm not sure I agree that central planning is always totally without merit, but I'm willing to explore that possibility. The city I live in was centrally planned and as a result we have nice wide roads which I guess are a good thing. Did I mention that I wrote an article called “Greater Good Vs. Personal Liberty – April 2014” (also on Devtome) which explores the dangers of collectivism and the importance of libertarianism in historical context? Please feel free to let me know what you think about it!

End of Example

I’m not saying this is the best way to self-promote but that’s one way I do it. Another way I self-promote is by sending friends, family, and new acquaintances links to my user page or to specific articles. However you promote your work you are sure to get some results. Sometimes having others promote you can help make a sale but I’m not so sure that is true in this case.

Hope this was helpful!

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